4runner camper conversion
We are in the opposite spectrum of the tow vehicle with Dodge Ram with a cummins turbo diesel. Both seats are in place, but the passenger seat folds down at night. He was unconcerned with the occasional foray into temperatures in the mid 200s while towing uphill and suggested that I just change the transmission oil more frequently, say every 50,000 km if towing a lot. Jan. My wife and I did the Alaska trailer trip last summer, towing a Rockwood 2109S with a Jeep Grand Cherokee. dry wight Jayco Feather. Three different dealerships all have said our vehicle will have no problem pulling the 21.5′ trailer when loaded. Cheers! I'm a sheep breeder and an inspector of our very rare Dutch sheep breed (Drenthe Heath Sheep). There are plenty to look at, but I’ve already had to rule out several because I’m 6’2″ and most beds don’t work for me. I still use an Equalizer WD hitch with sway control and a Takonsha electronic brake controller. It’s all about attitude, no “got to go no matter what” macho attitudes in our camp. With 3500 lbs fully loaded, you should have no problem other than maybe going slower on inclines. After doing this, I was able to keep speeds of about 60 mph on inclines. In a prior life, I drove two Jeep Cherokee Sports and loved them before switching in 2000 to the 4 Runner (the 2006 is our 2nd 4 Runner). We had a tranny cooler. I’m not convinced this is a good idea. We have a 2013 4-Runner Limited (which we love) and towed a Travel Lite Idea I18 “Cobblestone” with dry weight 3700lb. I sent an email to Toyota’s Corporate Office & haven’t heard back from them so,tomorrow, I’ll try calling them with the VIN and hopefully I get an answer. Jan, try equalizer, solid bar, no chains. Not familiar with a Flex – I assume you’ve checked the sticker inside the drivers side door for towing and cargo numbers. Hi Jan and David, We would only travel max 200 miles one way to camp (We live in the midwest if that matters). As the leader in minivan conversions, Contravans offers two different turnkey, pre-designed conversion options. In case you didn’t see the latest post on this subject, be sure to read “The Dark Side of Towing a Travel Trailer With a Toyota 4 Runner” Yet another caution to error of the safety when choosing a travel trailer/toy hauler. Quite a few ilong grades and I had read beforehand to drop out of overdrive. 113 likes. It was our first travel trailer and we really enjoyed it. 30+ #Vanlife Projects to Get You on the Road: #Vanlife is so much more than just living in a van. I have towed a roughly 4000 pound camper with my 1998 4runner 3.4 v6, about 250 miles one way with no issues. But all’s well that ends well & we like the extra room and towing capability we have with the Tundra. Hi Brenda! Hello – I’ve read through all of this – great info! 22′ long, 3,965 lbs dry-GVWR of 4,750. The drag of the tires will tend to pull the CG back onto the centerline of the truck and trailer. Luckily our trailer can accommodate the wider 215 tires and I was able to find load range D with maximum 85moh highway speed although I would never pull any trailer with any tow vehicle going that fast, even with weight distribution and sway bar. Sounds like maybe not such a good idea after all. I’m nervous having friends tell me that’s too much trailer. I was able to maintain 65-70mph on the interstate at about 2800-3800RPM’s In order to get up the steeper hills I did shift down to 3rd and had to go about 50-55 mph. I am just in the beginning stages of going full time, but I am a dog trainer, with two large dogs of my own and the occasional 3rd or 4th one in tow, so finding as much space as I can while still staying safe is imperative. You mentioned this but I wasn’t sure if you had them installed on the trailer. We too are planning trips into the mountains and cross country. Hi Jan, thanks for the reply. I guess I can always sell it if driving frightens me! I’m purchasing a Lance 1995 but would love to purchase the 2285 with the outdoor kitchen. I currently have a little ALiner, which is nothing for the Toyota to pull. Would like under 50K miles on the car, so that’s probably going to be a really tall order. So we left a day earlier and drove the long way back to Interstate 25. It was very comfortable from day 1. Brushing teeth & washing hands in the kitchen seems to happen often in our 1675 anyway – the kitchen sink is only a few steps away. Were not sure if we should settle for the smaller and lighter x19h 3,600 lb. It FELT scary and twitchy and was always shifting while towing our Flagstaff 25KS 6000# box. Sleep in comfort inside your Toyota 4Runner with the YOHO Bed Platform Camper Conversion for 5th Gen 4Runners! Can’t wait to get our trailer out of storage, loaded and get out my bathroom scale! We have only done 1 short trip and ran in 4th gear at around 2300 rpm the Runner pulled good and was able to maintain 55-58 mph. I hope you find the answer – I would strongly recommend asking over on the Lance Owners Forum – there are lots of folks much more experienced than us! I would say I felt the difference going through the pass but it handled it. Definitely will have to go used, but hopefully not too used! Yes, gas mileage sucks because I engaged ECT and spend most of the trip in 4th gear at 3K RPM. You’ll get some experience driving in the Blue Ridge – we drove to the N. Georgia Mountains the first week of August – those roads are steep and curvy – we havne’t encountered anything quite so steep and curvy on our 10,000 miles west this September. We tow with our Highlander……perhaps pushing it’s capacity, but we just took a 7000 mile trip out west and it did fine. I have done much research – and I get a towing capacity of anywhere from 5,000 to 6,400. It is rated for 4700 lbs by SAE J2807 standards. Makes me think now it’s not a good idea, love my 4Runner and am kind of bummed now. When you can lift your trailer with a finger then you have packed your load correctly and you will get a much smoother ride, it will reduce stress on hitch hence your 4runner. We needed up coming down 17 from Sedona to I-10 and through Joshua tree. Will continue to read others’ entries. I’ll let you know so if anyone else is in this predicament, you’ll have an answer to give them… I guess I’m still wondering how handy it would be to have the better offroading capabilities of the 4Runner. If it’s strictly SUV’s you’re looking for, then your list shouldn’t be anything more than LandCruiser, 4Runner, LX, GX or Jeep Grand Cherokee. I can't explain the attraction of sleeping in your car, but this rare 1982 Toyota Trekker by Winnebago is an excellent candidate for a DIY camper conversion… Remember, if the trailer floor length is 24′, add 3 more feet for the Trailer Tongue so the overall length becomes 27’… suggesting a tow vehicle wheelbase of a Full Size Pick-Up Truck would be appropriate for safe stable towing. After reading the info that Jan is providing and reading the replys, I actually am considering a travel trailer now. of torque. Enjoyed your adventure. It had the full tow package with transmission cooler. Not only for weight load but also maximum speed!!! or may be a little more. 4) Larry’s Phat page: Highways Interstate 40. David had a Chevy Tahoe prior to combining households and going with my 4 Runner. I don’t want to bite off more than I can chew, especially if I may be traveling alone at times. When we had to replace the 4 Runner, we opted to go with a Tundra for the added towing capacity and heavier vehicle. Sounds like you’re doing your homework & should have a wonderful adventure in your 1685. If I remember correctly, the 4 Runner is built on a truck frame and the Highlander is not. People all across the US told us we were out to lunch, that towing with our 4 Runner wasn’t safe, so forth & so on. My current vehicle is a 2000 Toyota 4-runner that I adore and its not really in the budget to get another vehicle. Enjoy your 4 Runner – I wish the new ones weren’t so dang expensive – more than the 2016 Tundra which we lucked into with 800 miles “used”. I’ll need to adjust this by trial and error to see if the sway can be improved (carefully). We travel with empty tanks other than just a bit of “emergency water” in the fresh water tank. We’re newbies with absolutely no knowledge of the Eaz-Lift R3 ReCurve WDH/sway system. Billy, you don’t multiply by Earth’s graviational acceleration. Our 4 Runner got 10-12 mpg depending on terrain and our Tundra gets 10-10.5 mpg. ENJOY! Jan. Can anyone tell me what the Weight Distribution Specs are on a 2016 4runner with a factory hith on it? Your guess is as good as mine! tow capacity and the 2016 that show 5000 lb tow capacity.I’m told by my local dealership that there is no difference in the mechanics of the 4 runners, just a difference in the way the capacities are calculated. ????? (Nothing Hong line those out west. Just bought one on Amazon and will try it out this weekend in the Beartooth Mountains of Montana. We spent the month of September 2016 crossing the Continental Divide 10 times with no issues. Cheers! I assume you have the factory tow package with the transmission cooler. Enjoy!! I just purchased a 2017 Starcraft 26bh with a weight of 4,578lbs. But we never had any trouble. It has a rear slide out with a queen bed and 2 bunks up front for my kids. As for the Lance accident described here, I belive it was unfortunate and due pilot error. I’m looking forward to getting our trailer out of storage & figuring out what our plan is for this summer. In general, books don't earn space in our #Lance1685 20' travel trailer - just not enough room. and on many other weekenders to the coast and mountains. ft. Great vehicle. What I didn’5 have was extended side mirror for passenger side. At night, CJ moves the front seats forward and extends the platform. Thanks for the quick response; the vehicle will have the factory installed hitch receiver and 4/7 pin connectors. It’s already a solid off-road vehicle being the TRD trim so I figured it would work perfectly to be able to get to odd places and then camp there without much hassle. Hi Frank! Or should I have an additional transmission cooler installed at a reputable place? You will also need a break controller to help you stop. Bottom line – the Lance 1995 with Toyota 4-Runner 2013 is really testing the limits, so be thorough and carefull. Jan. Hello! It does make me drive at the speed limit , no pushing it. Here are 7 car camper conversion ideas that will spur you into action, now. Hi Eddie! Note that Lance says NEVER to tow faster than 60 MPH and maybe for good reason (especially if towing near capacity of vehicle and trailer). (My parents first Chrysler, the Newport. Hi. By the way great blog keep up the good work. It is way oversimplified because you also subtract the torque counteracting this from the trailer hitch to the tanks and bike from the other direction…looks like 4 ft??? I just bought a 2016 4Runner V6 and was hoping I could pull a Rockwood Mini Lite 2104S, but having read these posts it doesn’t look like a good idea. Grosnever Arch on the dirt Cottonwood Canyon Road. A 4 Runner capable of towing 7300 lbs because of the V8. This micro camper is simple and very functional and it allows her to get out on weekly adventures. We have one battery and no water except the six gallons in the water heater. Thank you. And don’t forget to allow for the extra passenger’s weight in the truck. How to Turn a Van Into a Temporary Camper. Already without adding food or anything else, we’ve added about 300 lbs (of our everyday use 1000 lbs) and we haven’t added a thing to eat or wear. Cheers! You could try to lift before you have propane tanks and bikes loaded, then after to see if there is a big difference. Interesting that Toyota is rating the Highlander at a 5000 lb tow capacity and the new 4 Runner at only 4700 … this may deserve a phone call to Toyota for an explanation… I don’t get it. max tow eight. Cheers! I have seen pics of the 1475 but I would rather have the dinette than two chairs and a table. Like you, I’m expecting to be comfortable traveling at the speed-limit and enjoying a few more minutes of scenery when encountering grades but have limited my choice of travel Trailers to one that fits into the capacity of the Tow vehicle. Cheers — Jan. Jan and David I hope your having a great summer. But we did it and had nothing bad happen in 10,000 miles … were we just lucky? We just stay in the slow lane and enjoy the ride. Plus I’m sure there will be plenty of times I’ll want to drive on some harsher dirt roads while out adventuring – not with the trailer attached, of course, but just while on our trips. Prior I have only pulled our 20’pontoon, and was not sure what to expect pulling an RV. Gas mileage was about half 10-12mpg, so it was a little thirsty! I am towing a 2019 Lance 1985 with a 2017 Toyota TRD Pro. Jan. 4runner “disengage” the overdrive when you shift down to 4th. Cheers! Thanks. I wasn’t able to find too many reviews for this. Those bikes also. But these 4 books have earned their place on the bookshelf! I can’t convert the dining seats to a bed, my body wouldn’t handle it. Jan. I have a trailer the same size as mine wich will make it a little tougher to tow due to the total length of the trailer. By the way, we got 16 mpg coming from BC to Ontario. The Lance 1685 has everything we want in a trailer. We’ll be swapping out the 1575 for a larger model and it’s nice to know it can handle the weight. It’s noisy, but it works great. Having gone through the research and tours of dealers, I can assure you that there a now lots of choices of camper trailers within the 5,000 lbs range without compromising comforts and features. God bless you, Hi Monica, She can also sit on it while admiring the view. Under the back dash, there’s more storage and Cameron’s bed. with the 3.0L diesel. Cheers — Jan P.S. We have Michelins on both the trucks, but our trailer has the factory racials – and we’re going on 25,000 miles. We had the extra tranny cooler in our 4 Runner, didn’t notice if you had one on your Jeep, but you may want to find out. for several years with great success. Required fields are marked *, Designed by Elegant Themes | Powered by WordPress. We like that it’s big enough for boondocking (although we haven’t tried much yet, that’ll be the next trip? A durable truck bed tent camper keeps you protected from the harsh mood swings of Mother Nature. It sleeps 5. I am looking to purchase a 3700lb dry weight trailer 22 For our first trip, we decided just to go 45 miles North to a nice RV park. Chasing Waterfalls in Illinois: Starved Rock State Park! Thank you. You’re Runner will be fine, it’s a WORKHORSE! We used our 2006 Highlander rated for 3500# to tow our Aliner which loaded up was a right lane only in the mountains. Took it from Southern Oregon to Victoria B.C. Lorraine managed to convert her 8ft-long Smart car into a micro car camper. Apparently the tire quality issue is a big deal. Es un conjunto de tres partes con una puerta del gabinete, deslice hacia fuera la tabla, bajo de almacenamiento y una zona de … The dry weight of camper is 3780 lb. But for the Glacier trip, it’s possible we might look at a different tow vehicle. We prefer hard sided because we camp alot in national parks out west and often there’s a bear issue. Would the factory installed radials be ok for shorter trips and then switch to the Michelins for a long haul? 6 cylinder engine including a tow package. The bed is a huge dealbreaker for me, so it’s ruled out several. Hi RC! But time will tell. We have a 2016 4Runner and are getting ready to start the process of buying a travel trailer. But it was still clear that the Runner was not the Boss. Am I out to lunch with this plan? I may reconsider the 1575 though but the 1685 is what I really want. Hi Ken! I am towing a Lance 1575 with a 2013 4Runner. I’ve seen some here planning to tow 24′ and longer trailers with their 4runner. Turned out it took a bit longer, but it was an easy drive, when the pass did end up with blizzard conditions – smart move on our part. Ever take your camera hiking only to find you need two hands - for hiking poles or to scramble across a rock collapse in the trail. Not sure about towing a 1685 with a Highlander. Hi Anthony! No super long trips yet, but I’ve gone up and down medium grades to 4,300 ft. elevation. Friends have the 1885, which would be our dream trailer, but we felt it was beyond our towing capacity with the 4 Runner. We really, really, like the x23b! Hey Terry. All input would be appreciated. Built from the ground up to meet the needs of the true outdoor enthusiast, this camper is the perfect addition to your Toyota car, truck, van, or SUV. So far we’ve found that just about everyone we talk to is getting more like 10-11.5. FYI – we love our Tundra Crew Cab – click here to see why. Then there are just the other nice-to-haves, like a larger fridge, full bathroom, etc. Thank you- that is a pretty neat camper that I have never seen before. One thing we didn’t realize was that our 4 Runner with the factory installed hitch package included the transmission cooler. You are right in that the uphill can be slow but boy do we love it! We were in no rush and saw 3 other 4 Runners pulling trailers as well. I was glad to read your blog. Enjoy your Clam Quick-Set screen enclosure! What a difference 2ft and a different floor plan can make. Completely agree Robert! Be safe out there! We use it for all kind of things, one of which is as a one-person camper. We just finished our trip Chicago to Florida and back with no problems. Otherwise, you could be liable for a huge negligence claim if you have an accident. In the trunk, CJ keeps her folded up mattress and sleeping gear. Cheers — Jan, I appreciate all of your input, and this blog…. It encompasses living simply wherever life takes you. Cheers! You can always add more permanent gear, if you decide car camping is for you. You are subjecting the trailer hitch to at least 20,000 ft. lbs. We think we actually saw our taillights on one wet switchback road in Oregon. The Lance 1885 is about 300 lbs net heavier than our Lance 1685 – be sure to read the Dark Side of Towing with a 4 Runner about a 4 Runner towing a 4100 lb net trailer… similar to what you’re thinking. Trailer was about 6100# loaded. Jan 6, 2016 - Toyota 4Runner Camper Sleeper Conversion With Table: I helped my little brother build a camper conversion for his 4Runner this weekend. P.S. He can use the platform as a table for two. Jan, thanks for the reply. I think he’d like another Tahoe, but it may not be as good on the dirt roads we liked… but since we’re not planning on switching right away, we have time to explore the possibilities! Rated for 5,000 lbs towing capacity, we knew that after almost any trailer was loaded, we were pushing the limits of our little 4 Runner. Towed a Flagstaff25KS. After living in the western US for 20 years, CJ adventures with her two border collies around the South East of England, in a 2009 Ford Fiesta small car camper. Whatever you decide, ENJOY and be safe! I am considering a -forest hills rockwood HW296. My wife was sacred to death hanging on and yelling “what’s happening” “I don’t like this” “SLOW DOWN”! I will keep you posted! However, they are going after the tire manufacturer as they feel the tire was defective. Jan. We have a 2008 4Runner SR5 4×4 and pull a 4500 lb (loaded to travel) Bigfoot trailer, 19 feet long. Sounds about like our experience … for over 10,000 miles now. And then hope the 4 Runner improves it’s towing capacity with 2017. Highly customizable, uses all available space. I hope all is working out well for you. Gas mileage was atrocious at between 10 – 12 (more 10s than 12s). Be careful though, it wouldn’t be comfortable for 6’2″ with it’s lower ceilings and small shower. Some parks rangers make anyone in a popup camper store ALL foodstuffs, including stuff like tooth paste & toothbrushes in the vehicle every night to keep the bears out. After months of research, not only regarding the 4R but also travel trailers. We have 600# round sway bars to go with it. Still unsure about some of the roads there and also back down through page,AZ and back to NM. Then we would have an additional monthly car payment. Enjoy! Your 4 Runner is typical of their quality. Hi Doug! We’ve narrowed it down to a small handful. I own an ‘04 (255k mi) and a ‘16 with the V6 and have towed quite a bit. Despite taking evading tactics, we didn’t escape all the snow, just the blizzard over the mountain pass. We are debating on purchasing a Jayco Jay Feather x23b (4,200 lb.dry weight) to be towed by our 2016 Toyota Highlander. I miss our 4 Runner, but the Tundra is nice too. Dave, you might look at TrailManors…….they are a hard sided ‘pop-up’……with dry baths. We’re looking for a light trailer, around 20′, and under 5,000 lbs GVWR. We’ve been to Alaska, but rented an RV to go to Denali … one of the things that fueled our desire to buy own travel trailer! We have two teenagers that will usually be traveling with us. Aaarrrggg…. Came here to see your review on the Clam screen house. Jan. Dry weight is 2850. We also had the tranny cooler, extra suspension, a weight distribution hitch & sway bars. Thanks, yeah I just saw Stephen’s reply too. we were always concinsious of what we packed but never weighed the camper. We finished our trip, which included many hills climbing up and down 6 degree grades with many curves at less than 60 MPH without incedent. My wife and I have a 2006 4Runner v6 and we are about to buy a lance 1995 or 1985. The Wave and Grosnever Arch come to mind. Enjoy, and be safe! When we were moving cross country, we varied the guideline to include “travel days” – we’d leave at a civilized time in the morning and drive until 4-ish – so maybe 5-7 hour drive days to get across Texas or Kansas. She labors just a little up the grades but does okay. Cheers — Jan. I grew up with Pontiacs and Chryslers. Think of your double axle as the center of the scale, you want to balance so each side is even so torque on either side is equal, then you should be able to lift hitch with pinky finger. There’s no reason not to have a pop-up style trailer. This maybe too late as you might have done your purchase. I had no problems handling the trailer even during a few thunderstorms. ), Hi Brenda! Keep in mind the GVWR doesn’t include propane and tanks, batteries and other essentials – not to mention personal “stuff” – our screen enclosure, folding picnic table, so on & so forth – which can easily add over 1,000 lbs. I learned to increase my speed just prior to incline to help negate the loss of MPH on the uphill. We usually go 60 mph, and much slower in the mountains. Thank you in advance for any advice/input! So Cody stores a lot of food down there, as well as his battery. A Group 27 battery weighs approx 65 lbs, again, we have 2. Don’t forget your on holidays to, if your white knuckling it and are exhausted when you get to your destination no one will have fun. We’ve not had any experience with any other types of sway bars. I loved reading your story because I had my doubts about using the 4 runner for a TV but after a few steep grades those doubts have been put to rest. A friend of mine has the Tundra and pulls a much larger trailer with that. There is a major difference that we feel every mile. We’re not lucky enough to have spent any time in California yet. Discover (and save!) When ‘up’ it is 27 feet long. You can even feel free to tell us how dangerous what we’re doing is and leave photos of larger, more capable tow vehicles flipped on the side of the road … we’ve seen & heard lots of tales of woe … Cheers! Used Taylor Coach trailer are hard to find http://www.kijiji.ca . Unfortunately my husband broke his leg and we were unable to take it on our Florida trip but I did take it to an area RV tech sonthey could show me how to winterized it. This car camper conversion is super simple – no tools required. He will not make a slide out unit. I would like (love) to buy 4,200 lb. These items are not included in the dry weight of the trailer. Are those your thoughts as well? If I can replace the bed, then it’s fine, but in many, you can’t. We traveled light and may have at most 500 lbs of stuff in the trailer and that is being very generous. Thanks! I realize there is only a certain model of the Highlander that can actually tow 5,000 and the rest can’t. Posts about Toyota 4Runner camper written by tboppre. I’ve also hear people say never to tow with your automatic transmission in over-drive (5th gear) but to always select 4th gear.So much to learn! Make sure your dealer completely trains you on the use of your WDH (and other equipment, such as trailer brakes_). Without Shock Absorbers. Cheers — Jan. Eddie I think Jan is right. Stephen says he’s towing with a Highlander & happy – be sure to read his input below. My 4Runner now has over 130,000 miles and is still running as strong as day 1. Pulled a 6×12 cargo trailer camper conversion 6000 miles with a low mile 20000 4runner and at the end of my journey the transmission torque converter ate itself. When closed, this compartment serves as a kitchenette. Your suspension may be fine, ours wasn’t, hence the reason we had it beefed up. ), but not sure we’ll switch. Cheers! Not sure about the 4 Runner and a Lance 1985. Hi all. I kept the 4R in 4 instead of D for most of the trip considering there was very little flat ground. Or you could move the spare tire from underneath to shift that weight forward. Can’t wait to get in the mountains or in a situation with more cross winds to see how it handles. Did you plan the trip making reservations at specific places or did you just use the option of luck at finding camping spots. It’s alot of trailer for the 4 Runner, but we didn’t have any trouble in over 12,000 miles. Our WDH, recommended by the dealer we bought our Lance from, is a Eaz-Lift R3 ReCurve 600 lb. I have enjoyed your article and would like some reassurance. Thanks, yeah definitely still considering the Highlander too. There ought to be a load cell you could use to support the trailer to see how much torque is at the hitch point. We personally wouldn’t tow with a Highlander unless the trailer is significantly lighter than our Lance (3800# dry; 5000# loaded). We got our 2016 4Runner in December and picked up our 2017 Escape 19 in July. A quick and easy DIY car camper conversion is enough to start your trip. Luckily we were able to get the wider tires with pay load D. We traveled from Central Virginia to NE Florida and we had no issues with the trailer or two vehicle. And we really didn’t re-route that included any more distance, just different routes than the most direct route sometimes. Next to it, there’s a small trash can. Aggravating! Joe, We use 4th gear, no cruise control & it runs about 2300 RPM’s. I think this has turned into an advertisement, but I really meant to emphasize the low weights his trailers have. Several of my coworkers have Lance campers which appear to be good quality, so we began looking at them. Keep in mind a 20# tank full of propane weighs approx 37 lbs full (we have 2). I thought about buying a small trailer to survive with my 2 service dogs. That sounds great to me! We just bought a 2014 192RBS coachman and are pulling it with a 2015 4 Runner. Here’s the best and most popular sedans people are converting into campers: While this list doesn’t seem very long, bear in mind that you can turn any car into a camper. We never towed with the minivans, other than a small utility trailer. Great travel trailer! Sounds like you’re all set for fun! The middle seat section also comes out … On the other hand, after experiencing the difference between the 4 Runner & our new Tundra, we’d probably not tow with a lightweight tow vehicle again. Input? We would have happily gotten another 4 Runner except the price was so much higher and had less towing capacity, so it really didn’t make sense. I use husky weight distribution hitch TS with sway control. We have a 2013 4 Runner and want to tow our our 2012 Jayco Ultra Featherlight. Sorry we can’t be more help. We are at the foothills of the Blue Ridge and Afton Mountain is a steep ridge to practice on. I’m sticking with a Trailer that at max weight is still well below the 6200lb tow rating of the vehicle and loaded will be kept below 5000lbs, will keep the tongue weight at least 10% of the trailer loaded weight and will have and use a Brake Controller and Weight Distribution Hitch with anti-sway. There is a folding part to the platform that extends the bed forward. The 2000 Toyota 4Runner is a perfect blank canvas to build out a micro camper. We can’t wait to start our new adventures in the wilderness of Canada. That said, though, I’m starting to worry that I might be pushing it with the Highlander, especially considering the trailers we have it narrowed town to are very close to 5,000 GVWR, much like your Lance (which I love, but is out of my price range, unfortunately). California is on our bucket list, just not yet! I’d stay on I 40. Playing at the Beach? That’s the only place we can carry bikes on this trailer. The Jeep has done an outstanding job and I recommend this combination. The dry weight of the 2014 192RBS Freedom Express Coachman is 3700 lbs. As a bonus I can go off road in some pretty ruff areas. Cheers — Jan. It’s a personal experience post from another Lance trailer owner and you’ll want to read it before making any decisions, especially with the safety of the kids involved. It pulled quite well with our 2011 4 Runner, by the way rated to tow 5000lbs. Cheers! A Hensley Arrow hitch helped A LOT! His van conversion skills proved very handy, because the interior of his car camper looks incredible.
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